If Adam & Eve listened to God about the fruit where would be?

Question: “What would’ve happened if Eve and Adam listened to God about the fruit?” – Uriah Moss

Pretext: The bible teaches that God foreordained that Jesus Christ would come to earth to die for sin from the foundation of the world. This is hard for people to understand but God ordained the Fall of Mankind – He knew the result of the test when he commanded Adam. He knew that they would fail and He intentionally put Adam and Eve in the garden with the tempter knowing exactly what would happen… does this make God unjust? No, because He purposed to use these results to effect His Glory.

My Answer…

Understand – If God knew that Adam & Eve wouldn’t have eaten the fruit God wouldn’t have even put the tree in the garden to begin with. God foreknew the result of that test and ordained the fall of mankind so as to bring Jesus Christ into the world as Savior. An eternity with Jesus Christ as Savior brings God more glory than eternity without Jesus Christ as Savior. So when you want to understand why God did it the way He did with the fall of man, that is why. The fall was part of God’s eternal plan. When God created man he gave him the capacity to sin and knew that he would do so… and He knew how He would remedy the situation.

How can we save our souls?

Question: “How can we save our souls?” – anonymous

Pretext: Because of our fallen nature people have a sinful bias towards works-based systems of salvation… scripture warns us that our own righteous is no better than a “dirty rag”, that is to say, a menstrual cloth (that is the intended meaning of the text, I’m not trying to be gross). This is a very strong metaphor to describe our righteousness before God. We must despair of own righteousness and receive the one that is by faith in Jesus Christ…

My Answer…

First comprehend what you are being “saved” from – you are being “saved” from the penalty of sin, which spiritual death. Apart from your belief, God is the one who saves your soul once you believe the good news, which is simply the remission of sins through the shedding Jesus Christ’s blood. You are “saved” from the second death through his substitutionary atonement.

Why does God allow people to inflict pain upon others?

Question:Why does god allow people to cause or inflict pain or suffering on others?” – anonymous

Pretext: If God is so powerful and loving why doesn’t He just instantaneously destroy the wicked? It doesn’t quite work that way but some will use the problem of evil to deny the existence of God…

My Answer…

Well, it’s the dilemma of giving His creations free-will. God is love. He created us to love Him and love others. Love presupposes free-will. Free-will presupposes that an individual can choose not to love, i.e. hate. Inflicting pain and suffering on other is hate and it is sin. It was for this cause that Jesus Christ was sent in to the world, to die for sinners. God is long-suffering, not willing that any should perish so He has given these people a season to repent. In the meantime we must seek God to endure wicked people. He uses this negative aspect of things to refine our faith.

Why Doesn’t God Punish Evil Instantly?

O. Elishiba asks:

“Why doesn’t God give instant punishment for committing a sin? One man made my family cry a lot, he deceived me and almost killed them with emotional pain. Don’t you think that same day his car should have crashed or he should have perished. Today after many years he is extreme evil, wealthy, cruel, prosperous, has happy family, while we are still in pain.”

My answer…

The bible teaches that God is long-suffering and it is not his will that any should perish. Think about it, as bad as this person is would you want them to end up in hell for eternity? Also think about how you were when you were lost – had God given you justice at that point in your life you would have perished on the spot. The bible instructs you to forgive and pray for that person’s salvation. If you have a problem with that ask God to give you supernatural grace. Point is God is patient, forbearing and long-suffering with sinners…

Will I Burn I Hell if I’m not a Christian?

D. Edgren asks:

“Will I burn in hell for all eternity if I am not a Christian?”

My answer…

I’m going to be very straight forward with you – when I was an atheist a missionary had me read this text and it led to my conversion…

“The Father loves the Son and has given all things into His hand. 36 He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him. – John 3:35–36

When I was lost this infuriated me but later on God revealed to me it was true. Without Christ you will die in your sin.

What is the Unpardonable Sin or Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit?

unpardonable sin

“Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.” – Matthew 12.32

The bible teaches that there is one sin in which there is no forgiveness, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

But what is that?

Most of my readers will have some level of acquaintance with what the Shepherd’s Chapel teaches about these things, here’s a brief refresher…

According to the Chapel only the “elect” can commit it during the tribulation when they are delivered up before the Antichrist to give a testimony in the Pentecost tongue. The “elect” according to the Chapel is a specific number of literal Hebrews, the 144,000.

Muray teaches that it is not possible for anyone else to commit this sin other than the elect. He assures us that he has serious doubts that any of the elect will commit this sin, though the possibility remains…

When seen for what it is we find a serious level of religious manipulation with this doctrine but I will let you decide how that is the case.

In Matthew we find the Pharisees bringing some pretty serious accusations against Jesus Christ on account of his miracles, we read…

“But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.” – Matthew 12:24

Jesus was by the power of the Holy Spirit perfoming miracles, such as casting out devils. The Pharisees acknowledged that Christ had power but was essentially calling that power Satanic.

They were calling the Spirit that was within Christ giving him the power to do such things, Beelzebub, an unclean spirit.

Jesus gives his reasoning for how this was not so then gives them this ominous warning…

(Mat 12:31) Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

(Mat 12:32) And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

So on closer inspection we see that this circumstance and what Jesus is talking about has absolutely nothing to do with the so called “elect” denying the Holy Spirit the ability to speak through them during the tribulation. None whatsoever.

You have to witness the power of the Holy Spirit to blaspheme it. The pharisees witneseed this in a very powerful way and denied that Spirit.

They were calling the Spirit of Christ, an evil spirit. They asserted that the work that He did by the Spirit was a work of evil. The pharisees continuously witnessed Christ’s power to perform miracles and sought to destroy Him.

Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is complete defiance and rebellion against the unveiled presence and glory of God… not something the Chapel’s elect do during a fictitious tribulation scenario when they refuse to speak in tongues.

Notice that Jesus doesn’t even say that the pharisees are guilty of this sin but warns them that they are in danger of committing it. It is a sin that when committed makes repentence impossible. We should seek the Lord dilegently to understand the nature of such a sin…

Murray’s teaching about the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is sheer nonsense and obscures the true meaning of the text.

Murderers Can’t Be Forgiven in the Flesh?

David Murdered Uriah... in cold blood - and God forgave him
David Murdered Uriah… in cold blood – and God forgave him

According to Shepherd’s Chapel murder is a quasi unpardonable sin. Murray asserts that premeditated murderer (a criminal homicide) can not be forgiven in the flesh. There are two grievous errors in this position…

1. The sin is too great for Christ’s blood to atone for on earth and…

2. A person’s sins can be forgiven for sins after death…

I call the 2nd point the Second Chance error… and it can be found all throughout Murray’s teachings, specifically in reference to the tribulation and millennium. It is a smooth teaching, smoother than God will allow.

Let’s take this to the next step logically then – a women after a period of deliberation has her child aborted (i.e. premeditated murder), so she cannot receive forgiveness in the flesh. She must die and settle before her child before Christ will grant forgiveness according to Murray.

This is sheer biblical lunacy. Every sin can be forgiven through the blood of Christ if the sinner truly repents – the bible has many examples.

I leave you with the example of David who was as the bible records, “a man of blood”. David’s murder of Uriah was premeditated, no doubt.

Psalm 51 is a record of God’s having forgave David after he turned to Him in repentance. It wasn’t required that David die before God washed his sins away.

The teaching that murderers must die in order to be forgiven is popular with carnal man but it is base heresy, plain and simple.