People Don’t Really Die in the Tribulation? Are You Kidding!

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(Amo 5:18) Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.
(Amo 5:19) As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him.

The book of Revelation drips with blood… if I’m reading it correctly it tells of unspeakable tragedy and judgment that will befall humanity in the end before Jesus Christ’s ultimate triumph. In fact, his return is a veritable bloodbath…

“And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.” – Revelation 14:20

Maybe this is talking about a circus, or an amusement park ride…

What I find strange indeed – Murray spoke with great zeal about the New World Order; could a man who spoke so fervently against this order really have been that ignorant about their plans for eugenics and depopulation?

And who are these people who long for the great tribulation to arrive so that they can receive their carnal vainglory?

For Murray, a period of 5 months IS the tribulation. That’s not so bad, right? He concludes that no one really dies a physical death at that time but that it is merely “spiritual” which happens by being deceived. What a relief, nothing to worry about!

The worst that can happen is that you come back during the millennium to experience a thousand years of works based religion – which is hell enough granted, but…

How does he know that?

(Rev 9:6) And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

So, dying a spiritual death from worshiping the beast and taking his mark in the tribulation is no big deal. Poor deceived souls can work their way to salvation during the millennium under the guidance and discipline of Murray and his Zadokian priesthood who will be dropping the hammer with a vengeance.

Does the scripture teach that no one will die physically during the tribulation?

Allow me to demonstrate some basic math:

(Rev 9:18) By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

Let’s say the population at the time is roughly 6 billion. Okay, divide that by three. This is 2 billion people dying in a very short period of time. What part of “KILL” do you not understand?

You know, that serpent in Genesis was fond of saying, “Did God REALLY say that?”

Did God really say that masses of humanity would literally die in persecution and judgment in the book of Revelation?

Uh, yeah.

Murray likes to employ the same rhetorical devices it seems. Did God really say those people were going to literally die? Did God really say that taking the mark of the beast will land you hell?

Newsflash! Massive numbers of people will die a horrible brutish death during the judgments and tribulations spoken of in Revelation. Upwards of 2.5 billion will be slaughtered in the 6th trumpet alone in a short period of time! Not counting everything else…

That’s more people than have died in all the wars and revolutions in the history of mankind!

If you don’t think the deaths spoken of in Revelation are literal and that taking the mark won’t earn you a one way trip to hell fire, do me a favor and go flush your bible down the commode because it has become meaningless to you!

And if you think people can take the mark of the beast and die spiritually, yet come back in the millennium to earn a second chance at salvation then you my friend are dumber than a doorknob.

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Is A Gap of Time Between the 69th & 70th Week of Daniel?

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And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.” – Daniel 9:27

As we have noted before, the Shepherd’s Chapel is dispensational. This is very ironic as we find that Murray rails against the system of deception in which he is in bondage. He swings at the low-hanging fruit of a pre-tribulation rapture while expanding the essential ideas of dispensationalism even further…

To recap – E.W. Bullinger lived during the emergence of a now popular system of scripture interpretation called dispensationalism. Bullinger is a very close cousin of Scofield but pioneered his own system and study bible to rival the Scofield bible. Bullinger’s form is called hyperdispensationalism, as it has the church starting later in Acts.

If you go to the Companion Bible – notice his notes for Daniel 9:26-27 will detail his position. You can read his appendix 91 here to see for yourself…

Here are Bullinger’s own words in the appendix, “THE THIRD PERIOD. The last, or the seventieth seven. This period is yet future, and awaits the same literal fulfillment as the other two periods.”

So as you can see, Bullinger makes this passage in Daniel about a future Antichrist as he splits the 70th week off into the future. This is a classic example of dispensationalism. There’s a lot more but I simply want to demonstrate that there is no gap. The 70 week prophecy is one continuous prophecy with no gaps.

Once you begin to realize this, it will help you break free from a lot of the madness within futurism, a system of biblical interpretation that was invented by Roman Jesuits and passed down to the Anglican church and then on to the evangelicals of today.

Shepherd’s Chapel though it has it’s own variety of dispensationalism it bares many of the hallmarks, including the gap between the 69th and 70th week. In Murray system, the 70th week commences at the 6th trumpet and lasts a period of 5 months. 7 years is truncated to 5 months based on Jesus words… 

And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.” – Matthew 24:22

The 1260 days, 42 months and time, times and half of time (the great tribulation) is shortened to just 2.5 months.

The reality is this: dispensationalism completely distorts the meaning of prophecy when it adds this gap in time.

In the prophecy of the 70 weeks, Jesus the Messiah is the context throughout. During his earthly ministry he confirmed the covenant (the new covenant) with many, performing miracles, proclaiming the kingdom and forgiving sins. In the midst of the week he was cut-off in crucifixion thus bringing an end to the sacrificial system. He said, “it is finished” when He died and thereby ratified the new covenant…

The old covenant worship system continued on in form until it became a blasphemous caricature of worship and a stumbling block to all – it was swept away in judgment by the Romans a generation after the crucifixion of Christ…

That said, there remains a period of time after Christ’s death – the last half of the 70th week… I will address some issues on how to interpret this in an upcoming post.

Is the Great Tribulation Shortened to 2.5 Months?

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the whole tribulation last only 5 months?

(Jer 6:13) For from the least of them even unto the greatest of them every one is given to covetousness; and from the prophet even unto the priest every one dealeth falsely.
(Jer 6:14) They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.

The Chapel’s smooth words about prophecy are leading it’s students in a precarious direction…

Here’s a short video where Murray unequivocally states that the tribulation will be shortened to two 2.5 month periods, the last part is the great tribulation – this is a truncation of the 70th week down to 5 months… at first he say 9 months and corrects himself at the end…

If you’re ever studied with the Chapel for any period of time, you’ve probably come away scratching your head on more than one occasion. Let me give you a thumbnail sketch of what they’re teaching about the tribulation…

In Matthew 24 we read:

(Mat 24:21) For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
(Mat 24:22) And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

One of the first things we realize about Murray’s tribulation is that it really isn’t that bad – I mean, the 5th trumpet began in 1982 when Mt. Saint Helen’s erupted and things have been pretty good so far. The 5th trumpet began a time of teaching about the coming of the Antichrist in the 6th trumpet. So one of the chief purposes of the Chapel is to teach this special doctrine about the 6th trumpet and the advent of the devil himself.

Massive populations of people dying in judgment is a big theme in Revelation. The Chapel teaches that the deaths spoken of in Revelation are only spiritual because Satan’s powers of “deception”.

His power is so great that only Murray’s VERY elect (7,000 die hard students, called Zadok) have the capacity to completely avoid all deception. The effects of these spiritual deaths are ameliorated by the millennium of course as these poor souls receive a second chance… you see, they never really had a chance.

Another aspect of the tribulation is its overall shortening to a 5 month period spoken of in Revelation 9 – Lucifer himself will show up for the last 2.5 months or the great tribulation… and it will be like a carnival with ice cream, circuses and freak shows, no big deal. PHEW! Big relief, now I can go back to watching Bozo the Clown.

But where do we find this in scripture? Well, as with most fantasies, we don’t.

(Dan 9:27) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

According to dispensationalist’s (and Murray is one) the whole period of tribulation is known as the 70th week of Daniel. One week = 7 years. Of that 7 years half, or 42 months, is the period of great tribulation according to futurist interpretation.

I will have much to say about dispensational futurism in time — suffice to say it is completely incorrect but let continue…

Many people will die as martyrs if I read my bible correctly. It also says that, THE Antichrist, a man, not some supernatural entity will wear the people of God out for 42 months, not 2.5 months. People will be required to worship the beast under penalty of death and to take a literal mark to buy or sell… now I may be wrong, these things may apply to the whole church age or mean something else, but it’s certainly won’t be like the Chapel teaches.

There are no second chances in a future millennium if you take the mark of the beast…

The Chapel has basically created an apocalyptic amusement park for “his” elect during the 2.5 month tribulation… one where they are glorified in triumph over Antichrist and reign over all in the millennium… that’s RELIGIOUS FANTASY!