There Are Two Sons of Perdition… Who Are They?

“Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;” – 2nd Thessalonians 2:3

One of the things you will hear the Chapel commonly teach is that the “son of perdition” spoken of in John and 2nd Thessalonians both refer to the same futuristic Antichrist.

There is a lot of deception to unpack in this teaching by the Chapel.

The truth is the “son of perdition” in John and in Thessalonians refer to two different things.

In the first instance in John, the term “son of perdition” points to Judas Iscariot. In the second, “son of perdition” refers to an antichrist power that has already been revealed… the papal dynasty. This was spoken of in Daniel and Paul is borrowing from prophecy regarding the “little-horn” in a New Testament light:

“I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.” – Daniel 7:8

False teachers are quick to ignore scriptural context – it gets in the way doesn’t it? Let’s look at a passage from John 17…

“While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.” – John 17:12

The whole chapter Jesus is referring to the disciples whom Judas was counted among. The scripture being fulfilled is Psalm 109…

Why would Jesus stop on the dime and start talking about Murray’s mythical futuristic antichrist?

This is a common maneuver by the Chapel, to give words and phrases equivalent meaning across different books even when context requires otherwise. It’s kind of like algebra for heretics, but let me give you a clue if you are a genuine truth-seeker…

One word or phrase used in one part of the bible can have a completely different referent in another.

Commonly Murray will say that Judas genuinely “repented” of his sin of betraying Christ because he returned the money and that the Kenite power hierarchy in Jerusalem had him killed.

But Judas repentance in the Greek is not “metanoia” but “metamelomai” – in other words he was mentally regretful, filled with grief and anguish at himself and not truly repentant – this is evidenced by the consequent suicide.

Judas Iscariot is in hell.

The Papal Dynasty has been here waging war against the saints and casting the truth to the ground for very long time… and destroying God’s holy people.

Quit making excuses for an evil man whose heart was full of wickedness, greed and betrayal who is now in hell – you miss the gravity of Judas sin and the reality of the evil that took place.

Quit looking for a mythical futuristic superman Antichrist who will never come when the true prophetic fulfillment of scripture is in your midst right now destroying God’s people to an extraordinary degree and will continue until the end of the age.

If Adam & Eve listened to God about the fruit where would be?

Question: “What would’ve happened if Eve and Adam listened to God about the fruit?” – Uriah Moss

Pretext: The bible teaches that God foreordained that Jesus Christ would come to earth to die for sin from the foundation of the world. This is hard for people to understand but God ordained the Fall of Mankind – He knew the result of the test when he commanded Adam. He knew that they would fail and He intentionally put Adam and Eve in the garden with the tempter knowing exactly what would happen… does this make God unjust? No, because He purposed to use these results to effect His Glory.

My Answer…

Understand – If God knew that Adam & Eve wouldn’t have eaten the fruit God wouldn’t have even put the tree in the garden to begin with. God foreknew the result of that test and ordained the fall of mankind so as to bring Jesus Christ into the world as Savior. An eternity with Jesus Christ as Savior brings God more glory than eternity without Jesus Christ as Savior. So when you want to understand why God did it the way He did with the fall of man, that is why. The fall was part of God’s eternal plan. When God created man he gave him the capacity to sin and knew that he would do so… and He knew how He would remedy the situation.

How can we save our souls?

Question: “How can we save our souls?” – anonymous

Pretext: Because of our fallen nature people have a sinful bias towards works-based systems of salvation… scripture warns us that our own righteous is no better than a “dirty rag”, that is to say, a menstrual cloth (that is the intended meaning of the text, I’m not trying to be gross). This is a very strong metaphor to describe our righteousness before God. We must despair of own righteousness and receive the one that is by faith in Jesus Christ…

My Answer…

First comprehend what you are being “saved” from – you are being “saved” from the penalty of sin, which spiritual death. Apart from your belief, God is the one who saves your soul once you believe the good news, which is simply the remission of sins through the shedding Jesus Christ’s blood. You are “saved” from the second death through his substitutionary atonement.

Why does God allow people to inflict pain upon others?

Question:Why does god allow people to cause or inflict pain or suffering on others?” – anonymous

Pretext: If God is so powerful and loving why doesn’t He just instantaneously destroy the wicked? It doesn’t quite work that way but some will use the problem of evil to deny the existence of God…

My Answer…

Well, it’s the dilemma of giving His creations free-will. God is love. He created us to love Him and love others. Love presupposes free-will. Free-will presupposes that an individual can choose not to love, i.e. hate. Inflicting pain and suffering on other is hate and it is sin. It was for this cause that Jesus Christ was sent in to the world, to die for sinners. God is long-suffering, not willing that any should perish so He has given these people a season to repent. In the meantime we must seek God to endure wicked people. He uses this negative aspect of things to refine our faith.

Do the Muslim holy writings advocate killing Christians?

Question: “Do the Muslim holy writings advocate killing Christians?” – anonymous

Pretext: the Quran contains many injunctions to slay, terrorize and dominate infidels – how can a religion of “peace” be so brutal?

My Answer…

It would appear to me as though they do but many moderate Muslims would say that those passages refer to times of war. I don’t buy that – why was Mohammad’s followers at war with unbelievers to begin with? Why did they feel entitled to make war to spread their religion. They will be “at war” everywhere they try to take their deception where it is not established… and there will always be those extremists who take the Quran at it’s word.

 

Why believe Jesus is the Son of God and not just a prophet?

QUESTION: “Why believe Jesus is the Son of God and not just a prophet?”Shehab Muhammed

PRETEXT: Most within the Islamic faith will argue in favor of Jesus status as prophet and not the divine Son of God. This completely nullifies the nature of Christ. This is in complete opposition to the teaching of the New Testament – there is no reconciliation between Islam and true Christianity.

My Answer…

Because Jesus Christ came into the world to die for sin. If he were a mere mortal then he would have been sinful. Jesus Christ was without sin and was fully human and fully divine – He was a sacrifice without spot and blemish. If he were a mere mortal his atonement would been in vain.

Why Doesn’t God Punish Evil Instantly?

O. Elishiba asks:

“Why doesn’t God give instant punishment for committing a sin? One man made my family cry a lot, he deceived me and almost killed them with emotional pain. Don’t you think that same day his car should have crashed or he should have perished. Today after many years he is extreme evil, wealthy, cruel, prosperous, has happy family, while we are still in pain.”

My answer…

The bible teaches that God is long-suffering and it is not his will that any should perish. Think about it, as bad as this person is would you want them to end up in hell for eternity? Also think about how you were when you were lost – had God given you justice at that point in your life you would have perished on the spot. The bible instructs you to forgive and pray for that person’s salvation. If you have a problem with that ask God to give you supernatural grace. Point is God is patient, forbearing and long-suffering with sinners…