Testimony

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In early 1994 I became a devout follower of Arnold Murray, I was almost 17 at the time.

I have over 20 years of intimate up front involvement with this cult that the Lord Jesus Christ himself freed me. So you would do well if you’re involved to consider what I have to say…

If you’re struggling with loved ones caught in the madness of this be strengthened by the articles.

At first I was blown away by his teaching, I never took an interest in the bible like I did when I first started studying with the Chapel… it’s because Murray offers his followers a vast panoply of spectacular, delusional false religion. His lies cause the carnal man to spin like a top.

Within a short period of time I fully internalized this man’s doctrine… in short order I was poisoned! By the end of 1994 in a fitful effort free myself from this system of deception I renounced all religion and God… I became an atheist. My real problem was that I put my confidence in this man.

I would awake from atheism and begin to gravitate towards his teaching on more than one occasion (4 times, actually) – only to turn back to atheism… are you beginning to sense the ordeal that I had to go through to be delivered from this?

I would not wish it on my worst enemy. It was a very painful and difficult process to go through.

Eventually, after a long process dealing with this the Lord Jesus Christ delivered me, this began in late 2004 into 2005. The process of deprogramming would take several years.

The lies and deceptions of this cult caused me no small problem. In this blog I will detail everything from my own personal experience with the Chapel to how Jesus Christ delivered me from this cult. We will expose this charlatan for all to see…

Feel free to browse the articles I have submitted and share them – over time it has become quite extensive and I intend to keep piling the arguments thick against this ministry.

I encourage you to start here: FULL LIST OF ALL THE SHEPHERD CHAPEL’S FALSE DOCTRINES

82 thoughts on “Testimony

  1. First of all, show me a pastor (any pastor), teaching the word chapter by chapter/verse by verse. second, just what makes this a cult? Third, what makes him a false teacher? who else do you know on t.v. teaching the word/not begging for money/not fooling the people by telling them to look for money/and not teaching that “black” people come from Ham seeing his father naked?……answer please

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    • There are a vast multitude of Christian teachers that teach from the bible, do you want specific examples? This is simply a device Murray uses. Notice how every other sentence he interjects his false interpretations of the text.

      Jehovah’s Witnesses show their reliance upon the scripture but the wrest the scripture for their own purposes and most people know them to be a cult.

      This is what Murray does. He is a purveyor of false teaching – and he has a large group of followers. I would consider that a cult… anywhere heresy is being taught and where people are followers.

      And we are not talking about small errors, but rather full blown damning heresies. Don’t kid yourself about the money thing – he is very shrewd in that he was playing off of people’s built up antipathy in this regard. He amassed plenty of money for himself selling religious lies.

      Black people are Hamitic but it isn’t the result of a curse but rather where they lived. Ham did not sleep with his father’s wife – the text never says anything like this. He disrespected his father by looking upon him when he was passed out and telling his brothers in a dishonoring way. His brother’s walked into the tent backwards and covered him. Nothing about incest there.

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      • There is a sin according to I John that is one to death, and John said we should not pray for it. Did Paul call for prayer for Hymenaeus and Philetus, or did he warn of their denial of a coming regeneration?

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    • I’m with you Charlene. Pastor Murray always said “Check this or any man out”….he clearly had nothing to hide. I thank our Father for him.

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  2. These people who consider Shepard’s chapel a cult as I can see those people are jeolous of the fact the murrys have a larger following than there cult. I am so blessed to have known pastor Murray and I do believe when he did meet God ….God did reply he was a true and faithful servant.It angers me to know that they are so many sad and close minded people who really don’t know Gods word and can sit in judgment of a true messenger of God.

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      • Tim you didn’t prove us that Murray is a false teacher. I don’t see you disproving other obvious false teachers…

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      • Hi friend. Colby Braden and I, another former student of the Chapel started a series called “Cult Wars” weekly going after a wide array of false religions – so you do your research before you speak.

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    • Debbie listen too this atheist.I have seen he started out atheist and still Atheist when ,he left the chapel.Stay away from people who hate.There something in his life,and he said ,what his problem was,he is ATHEIST stay off these poor me baby sites a lot of people dont understand what they read,Atheist can’t stand arnold Murray because he is too deep for them to deal with.They will go too there knees when Christ returns,his word says that. 28 year Chapel Student. nothing comes close,you can lean more,on the Chapel in one week then in Church in a year.these people that are judging the Pastor are not the judge.If you joined another church down the street,They would be judging everything,about it.Chapel Students ,I mean real Chapel Students you know what I MEAN.MOST people like this,I call 7 day wonders,they never can find a place,that will put up with there nonsense ,so they hop from church too church staying confused.Tender ears ,stay off these judge mental sites,they only try too get you in there confusion.just keep reading the word,and do what pastor murray always says dont trust this man or any other,only the word of GOD

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  3. Charlene and Timothy. I really hope and pray that you receive the real truth before its to late. you are so blinded of the truth that if it hit you in the face you wouldn’t know …You only shows and proves to me that Satan and his angels are here on earth

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    • You have been deceived by Pastor Murray’s false doctrine — this blog seeks to demonstrate this to Murray’s disciple’s, I used to be one. Jesus convicted me for being involved with idolatrous religion.

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    • I have thoroughly looked at your printed jargon and you definitely have one of the best examples of dark spiritual manipulation right here on this site ,I consider this babel very misleading to the general public as you comment on certain areas of the bible that are based on your mental opinion you have backed up nothing ,technically here there is always a loose end as when you talk about being born from above ,which simply means you must be born of woman to even have the chance to enter into heaven ,being baptized of water does not stop a persons sin ,and does not guarantee a spot in heaven either ,its simply a symbol that you are in dedication in your life to walk a new walk ,I have been studying with the chapel since the late 80s and you have an evil spirit for sure to print such misleading jargon towards this rare church of revelation ,The Shepherds Chapel is not a cult and everything I have ever studied has been proven to me ,I may not understand a small percentage of some idioms and figures of speech from the King James language of English and political correctness times of freshly breaking the era of the dark ages ,so therefore one must understand that GOD has things locked into a deeper meaning in order for him to witness his creation seek him out in a deeper way ,the things you say about soul sleep are left with loose ends ,you make a good argument to the unlearned at first but then it sits with loose ends after any of your statements ,this is similar to how bold Satan was to take Christ himself up out of the wilderness and try to offer him control of things of earth ,this spirit with you is crafty but leaves unproven ground at the end of any argument your making ,its designed to get someone second guessing ,and to ask within yourself maybe this makes sense but at the end there’s the same ? Here’s your familiar spirit ?

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  4. No NWT. Watered down, confusing, meaning lost in translation. I want the meat and the f a t

    2 His interjections of lamen term to teach his students not write a book but understand the word.

    3. What mistake.

    4 again show me, prove it. Easy, use the scripture.

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  5. Really? Is that all you got? Seven thoughts! This man has been on the air for nearly 30 years! He backs up everything he preaches with scripture! One of the things that he has taught me is not to judge.

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    • We ARE to judge in righteousness. If a friend visited you and confessed his deeds of being a child rapist would you be leary of him around your children? Of course because you would’ve made a judgement to protect your children. If you don’t then you are being naive and perhaps setting up yourself and your children for a bad fall and a world of hurt. Of course we judge. Do not let the world tell you that we shouldn’t judge -for any reason.

      What Jesus talks about is our shortcomings and to realize that we all have them so do not judge on what we wrestle with

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    • Janet very good.keep up the good work.your right he backs up EVERYTHING with the word,not a poor me baby.lol

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  6. I have just recently (literally just a few days ago) came out of SC. I studied on and off for a few years but nothing rver really made sense to me and anytime I’d ask my SC friends on a popular social media site to explain to me so I could get it….they always had the exact same answers as Murray. And also people should watch out because it seems they will welcome anyone who is “lost” & seeking truth but if you go against them or disagree with them on something they will remove you from their group (and there are quite a few!) & call you a kenite or say that you must not be a true believer. I have had a couple friends like me who came to agree that we dont agree with a lot of what SC teaches come out to the rest of the SC friends on this popular social media site and those devout sheppies would attack them and spread the word around that they were heretic Kenites who infiltrated their groups to cause trouble. Funny thing is, they’re groups are either all closed where regular Christians can’t find it or they are secret. If you are with SC for any length of time on these social sites, you will notice how often they all argue amongst themselves because they have become puffed up in their egos and they think they are so knowledgeable in “truth”. But God’s Word says that real Christians are of ONE accord. These people are divided amongst themselves and if you slightly or even totally disagree with their way of thinking then you are “marked”. If you speak any word that sounds remotely close to being against the Murrays…oh boy you better watch out! There are even a few followers who have become racist and very very hateful. Take it from me, i used to be in the midst of all these people and it isnt pretty. I am so thankful to God that He lead me to another site almost like this one. And since then I have learned so much and the questions I had that would always go unanswered have been answered because for one, I didn’t understand (thank God!!!) & for two, the followers were horrible at explaining. Which I feel is because they are truly in a cult and blindly follow or they have “studied” & only let Murray’s teachings sink into their minds and are completely intolerant of any other possible answers. If you are a follower and have come to this blog, you were either persuaded by other followers to come stick up for your cult or you are genuinely curious to these findings. Let me tell you as a very recent but no longer student, you MUST study your bible on your own and WITHOUT reading INTO the scriptures things that aren’t there! And please just let it speak for itself. This will take a while since your mind has been poisoned and conditioned to think exactly as the murrays teach. But God will help you see the real truth! I hope you’ll hear that still small voice that is calling for you to come out of the confusion! I am putting my name out there….so go ahead and find me on social media and bash me and try to ruin my reputation, I dont care. Someday you will realize I took this risk out of love to warn others. Thanks to the writer of this blog….the message must keep going out because these people are severely decieved and need to know.

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    • It seems to me that you are confused and you don’t except
      These teaching because they conflict with you way of living. If you think his a false teacher when you see him clearly teaching from the bible then who do you think is true teacher of God. Every time I find someone that seems to be a good teacher of the word of God one of you comes up and calls him a false teacher because he or she thinks so. If you think your judgment is true then you try preaching for 30 years. Please tell me where to find a true teacher because you seem to know how to spot one. And that goes for tymothy Campbell since both of you are so eager to drag him thru the mud

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      • I’m eager to expose this religious charlatan and the system of falsehood he left behind with a zeal that you cannot imagine. I know God’s word is behind me in calling Murray out for his lies, 100%.

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    • I have studied on my own and with Pastor Murray for many, many years. Now you come here to bite the hand that fed you. Do you throw out ALL of his teaching chapter and verse? or just the things you don’t happen to agree with? Nobody here can say they did NOT learn from this man. Nobody. Maybe if you did not get understanding you should have asked GOD to help you.

      What a sorry person to go bashing this teacher because things did not work out the way you planned. Show me a better teacher who teaches chapter and verse that has more understanding then this man. God will deal with a backbiting soul like you. Disgusting…….

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    • It seems that that flock has not the truth for themselves but has ‘found’ what they feel is the truth and are riding on the pastor’s shirt tails. This happens a lot. Think about how many people go to church for years and yet do not have the Living Word flowing through them. Seek the Lord Jesus with all of your mind and heart and soul. Jesus is our ONLY Savior. Draw close to God for your redemption draws near. This is absolutely the most important decision you will ever make. Study the Living Word for yourself. AMEN

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    • thank you Sara for revealing the truth about this cult ! you should know ,for you were there !… one way to define a cult , you must believe every thing they say and never disagree with their false doctrine,if you question them they will argue their religion. Ask a christian about the word of God and they will help you in a loving christian way. my heart aches for the people being led astray,perhaps never hearing the true gospel and letting Jesus in their hearts. Please,christians ,let us pray for their these poor lost souls.

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    • Hi Sara, I listen to Shepherd’s Chapel off an on. He’s a good teacher. But I don’t agree with everything he says like I don’t agree with what many pastors say. It’s not because they are not called by God, but they are human. People who are vicious towards any who does not agree with them or a doctrine has some personal problems. One thing I did take from SC is to read the scriptures for yourself and also according to Arnold Murray, test to see if he is correct. Arnold Murray on many occasions during his question and answer segment has told his followers and viewers to not always take his word for it, but study to show yourself approve too. Because like any human, we can be in error.

      But what I do like about SC, is that they talk about things in the word of God that we over look, is afraid to ask, or is simply not covered. There is more to the word of God than Jesus being sent to us to die for our sins. I really want to know the “why?” and not just because he loved us. What really made us sinful? Is it Adam and Eve? Ezekiel 18 mentions that the soul that sinneth shall perish. Therefore I’m not responsible for anyone else’s sin but my own. So why am I’m paying for Adam and Eve’s mistake? How did I inherit this sin or was it already here before these two people were created? You see what I’m saying.

      And, I think the people who have these vicious attitudes and who have formed these study groups or secret groups around shepherd’s chapel are worshiping the Pastor and not GOD.Not all of them, but according to what you have mentioned, maybe some of them. Remember in 1 Corinthians (if I’m wrong please correct) where the corinthians were grumbling who they should follow and whom should they baptise themselves in. Then Paul had to go and stop all that noise. It’s the same thing. The only thing that I’m vicious towards is the sinful nature, not the person. (and yes sometimes I get it confused).

      Sometimes you have to read deeper into what the Arnold Murray is saying. I find Dennis Murray to be a little more understanding sometimes.

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      • Am I being vicious? I wouldn’t call it that – I am irritated with false religion as it dishonors God. I was personally agitated with the Chapel long ago for causing me to stumble but I am long past that. At some point someone has to blow the whistle. That’s what I did.

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  7. Wow chapter and verse teaching is false? Hummm Where is your church? Do you teach now? Where is your blessed church? Where are you teaching the ‘truth’? Seems to me you are backbiting because it has not happened fast enough for you and now you bite the hand that fed you.

    You are an accuser much like satan is the accuser and you are spending this time to make these pages because you are so learned in the Word now that you think you can teach better then someone who taught greater than 60 years Chapter and verse? Wow. What a sad sap. You should be studying for yourself and learning all you can not wasting time looking for attention from other Prideful students of the Word.

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    • Yep Marci,
      Chapter and verse teaching can be wrong if a person does not bother to get the tools for the task at hand. In other words, not bothering to acquire an education necessary for teaching the sacred word. It is interesting how whenever a person is ill they want “the best” doctors, etc., with the most education, experience and every other thing under the sun but when it comes to God’s word they will blindly follow any yo yo who is blowing whatever crap they want to hear. You should be thanking Timothy for exposing these frauds. Cheers.

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  8. I have been listening to Pastor Murray for years-true, he has an interesting and very different spin on the Scriptures. I have been praying that God would clear up all of the twisted explanations he gives for his beliefs while preaching “chapter by chapter and verse by verse”, but in all of my own studying, and probably because I have an English degree, I have not been able to buy into all of his questionable doctrines. Actually, I have been quite tortured trying to make sense of Murray’s teaching-I truly want to know the Truth as I am a committed follower of Jesus. Thank you for examining some of the very issues I have had with the Murrays’ teachings-I don’t feel quite so confused. Perhaps I need to trust my own judgment, or should I say “discernment” more. Anyway, thank you for helping me to find a way out of this maze.

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    • Wow, This is a very insightful comment. Do you care to elaborate and maybe help save me from the teachings of a “fruitcake” ? If there’s , ” No doubt about it ” then please explain in your own words.

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      • Jerome, please try Son Life Broadcast, listen to Donnie Swaggart. give him a try,he absolutely teaches by the bible,the written word of God,nothing added,nothing taken away ! i pray you find the truth you are searching for .love in Christ.

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  9. How were you finally delivered Timothy? You say you bounced back and forth from being a Murray student to being atheist. Did you find a better place to study? Or did God give you the full truth on your own? Many Murray bashers often point to things Murray said or did way back in the 70’s. Can he not change his mind and repent of things he may have done wrong? Also, why do so many people spend all this time to bash Murray instead of starting an awesome church with 100% truth !! Let this man rest in peace and start teaching us if you have everything figured out. The problem with people who bash Murray is that they are very intelligent and write some very flowery long articles but they always leave me thinking , ” What???” These articles very seldom change my thoughts about Murray. I want the truth PERIOD! Most of us who listen to Murray read the basher’s articles and VERY few ever change and go against Murray. So, what is the motivation behind these articles against Murray? Can it be egotistical reasons? Can it be using someone’s else’s fame to draw attention to your own rantings? Perhaps people just enjoy starting arguments. If the articles are indeed written by the guidance of the Holy Spirit and are to help pull us from the grips of a false teacher, Then PRAISE God! I welcome that, But I have read article after article against Murray and I am still siding with his teachings. I pray that all these folks writing against Murray are following the Holy Spirit and not doing this for the wrong reasons. This is no joke. We are talking about our souls here. I want the truth, not an argument. Start up your own church and TV teaching and let me know where to watch it please. But, you better erase this article first. What will be written about you? They will use your own words and say that you were once in a cult and even an avid atheist and who knows what else.

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    • My sister is a recent Murray follower and it has me very concerned. She has fits of anger when we don’t accept her rantings. I don’t think that should be the outcome if you are learning the truth. Actually my sister stopped following Jesus and started following a man. It shows and it’s alarming. If this can keep even one person from this then it’s worth it!!

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      • I know Dee – I have known Chapel followers in the real world and it horrific, the fruits of the teaching. I can look to my own life an experience and vouch for it’s wicked effects. The Lord clearly rebuked me and convicted me in 2004-05. Very clearly warned of perdition. She is caught up in fantasy religion and the Lord is going to have to pierce the delusion. He can use you to do it.

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  10. I came across this website and am confused if you people are brothers and sisters in Christ.Why are so many of you so angry at one another?

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  11. It doesn’t take a Christian to know that the Shepherd’s Chapel doctrines are largely full of poo. The racism disgusts me (non-white folk herded 2X2 onto the ark like the other beasts? Nice). The sexual perversion and apologetics disgust me. Their worship of violence makes me want to vomit almost literally.

    Make no mistake, as a non-believer I think you’re deluded too; but your delusion isn’t harmful and you’re trying to help people avoid getting entangled with the Murrays with it so it’s all good. Shine on you crazy diamond.

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  12. I can certainly relate to ALL comments on this page as they are ALL valid. Being a seeker of Christ’s total reality is NOT an easy thing. I too have flip-flopped away from the SC teachings a few times during the last decade. Just when I gravitated back toward the fold (after a TV episode of SC), ba-blam… this blog interrupted the return. Thanks for the reality slap from one who knows. All SC teachings are not apostate, just some. But even a little leaven in my loaf is destructive, and SO not cool. Thanks again. God will continue to bless you. Count on it.

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  13. I must laugh…SC so close yet so far. The Learned were even able to pay off the revelation of the risen one. Now Balaam’s folly ruins the land. Your yoke is kicked off and our wise men rule. The Pharmacia is witchery that opens the chachras to the dark one. The whole land is under the spell of Babylon. Qabala and the compass the plum line and raha bone .

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  14. I have a sister who came to me with some unusual ideas. Good thing I know enough scripture to notice something wasn’t quite right. At first I thought she was studying Herbert W Armstrong’s teachings. I have studied christian identity and the gap theory enough to identify it when she started rambling about 3 earth ages and kenites and serpent seed. I have studied evolution, marxism, hitler and a few others to really become alarmed.

    My sister accuses me of being judgemental and a kenite because I have rejected her teachings/beliefs. She is very pushy and what I would call “frenetic” in her use of verse by verse chapter by chapter……

    She reads verses like Arnold Murray does with lots of commentary in between. She also thinks she is an expert in the hebrew and greek languages.

    I don’t know how to reach her cause she shuts you out and is very argumentative. I am expected to listen to her for hours yet she won’t let me speak or respond. I know she has become enbroiled in a cultish thing called Shepherds Chapel.

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    • Yes, yes, yes – false religion makes people lose their minds — pray for the wisdom to deal with this, I was rarely successful in speaking with the Chapel followers near where I live. One would listen but he seemed unable to shake free. His life was an utter mess.

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  15. After reading your “testimony”, your website and “psycho babel” become clear to “ears who hear”! Kenite!?!?

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  16. Some are not meant to understand at this time. If you don’t you will get your chance. It seems the ones against Shepherds Chapel have for some reason had their hearts turned away, maybe by our Father or their father. You are quick to take GOD’s place in judging. It seems you learned very little indeed. Send your money to your beggars they are at it every day for most of their teaching time on air. If you can’t see, keep answering their call and give give give all you have they will take it all.

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  17. Honestly, the SC did right by me for getting me back into the bible, but I’ll never forget how a university biblical Hebrew scholar I studied under took issue with a number of Murray’s interpretations of Genesis texts. And despite Murray’s ‘don’t trust this pastor’ mantra, I found a lot of my fellow SC students to be reallllly unreflective about his teachings [and that seems to be pretty much still true, if the responses here are saying anything]. They’re using Murray’s same verbiage to attack you here. It’s a little weird. So those things tend to make an able mind think ‘feels culty, gotta be a cult’.

    But I don’t know that I’d label it a cult, so much as a misguided attempt to interpret ancient texts and align them with real spiritual belief and, less productively, personal prejudices and small-minded social customs and folkways. Thanks for your views, Timothy, and everyone else who’s posting and showing tolerance to those who don’t believe exactly what you do.

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    • I think it’s admirable that Murray wants to get people back to the bible, but when you investigate it this saying is merely his way to get people to accept his system of understanding. Make no mistake, Murray believes his view to be the correct one and if you disagree then you’re either not elect or even worse a Kenite. He will say over and over, only the elect can understand his teaching… that is a very strange thing to say in light of his claim that people should check him out first. It’s kind of like when the Mormon gives their spiel and then asks the listener to pray about it to see if the Holy Spirit confirms it to them…

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  18. Hi Timothy, I’m a real fictitious dummy – I took advantage of the moderating system you have set up here to make two comments from two different people under the same IP. I tried to trick you but you’re so clever, you caught me red handed.

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    • Lizzy, Lizzy, Lizzy… I like to call comments like these drive-by ad hominems. You are using teeny-bopper logic. Did you drink the kool-aid or something? I will give you an opportunity to defend your statement; if you don’t it will be edited to reflect a kinder, gentler, more Christlike Lizzy.

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  19. It is far from false interpretations when what he is teaching is the exact word and exact translation. People look for deeper meanings and metaphors to interpret verses to make it their own. They do not ask for money but teach absolute. Because you do not agree with the exact words from the Bible doesn’t make the preacher a cult leader. The fact is that you don’t agree with the Bible, and the exact meaning of the things it says. Go to a Church and give your money away to those preachers who teach the bible and use metaphors to make it fit your lifestyle. But do not hate on preachers that teach the word in it’s entirety.

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  20. I had listened to Mr. Arnold Murray for quite somtime, I stopped before his death because something in his teachings just didn’t sit well with me. I prayed, read my Bible, and prayed some more, the same answer kept coming FALSE PROPHET. I put my faith in what God tells me not in man, I have nothing bad to say about Mr. Murray but, I do not believe the way he taught. You must not let man deceive you, for there are false prophets among you. We are living in the end times now: Know your Bible so that you will not be deceived.

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  21. But beyond this, my son, be warned: the writing of many books is endless, and excessive devotion to books is wearying to the body. Ecc. 12:12

    While Paul was saying this in his defense, Festus said in a loud voice, “Paul, you are out of your mind! Your great learning is driving you mad.” Acts 26:24

    These two Scriptures popped into my mind as I read the various comments. I say Rave On!
    “From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and violent men take it by force. Matt. 11:12

    We (human Christians) will never agree fully on this side of the grave, but the Prince of Peace is coming. He will teach us. In the meantime, let’s have the sense of a Cow, chew the hay and spit out the sticks!

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