There Are Two Sons of Perdition… Who Are They?

“Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;” – 2nd Thessalonians 2:3

One of the things you will hear the Chapel commonly teach is that the “son of perdition” spoken of in John and 2nd Thessalonians both refer to the same futuristic Antichrist.

There is a lot of deception to unpack in this teaching by the Chapel.

The truth is the “son of perdition” in John and in Thessalonians refer to two different things.

In the first instance in John, the term “son of perdition” points to Judas Iscariot. In the second, “son of perdition” refers to an antichrist power that has already been revealed… the papal dynasty. This was spoken of in Daniel and Paul is borrowing from prophecy regarding the “little-horn” in a New Testament light:

“I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.” – Daniel 7:8

False teachers are quick to ignore scriptural context – it gets in the way doesn’t it? Let’s look at a passage from John 17…

“While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.” – John 17:12

The whole chapter Jesus is referring to the disciples whom Judas was counted among. The scripture being fulfilled is Psalm 109…

Why would Jesus stop on the dime and start talking about Murray’s mythical futuristic antichrist?

This is a common maneuver by the Chapel, to give words and phrases equivalent meaning across different books even when context requires otherwise. It’s kind of like algebra for heretics, but let me give you a clue if you are a genuine truth-seeker…

One word or phrase used in one part of the bible can have a completely different referent in another.

Commonly Murray will say that Judas genuinely “repented” of his sin of betraying Christ because he returned the money and that the Kenite power hierarchy in Jerusalem had him killed.

But Judas repentance in the Greek is not “metanoia” but “metamelomai” – in other words he was mentally regretful, filled with grief and anguish at himself and not truly repentant – this is evidenced by the consequent suicide.

Judas Iscariot is in hell.

The Papal Dynasty has been here waging war against the saints and casting the truth to the ground for very long time… and destroying God’s holy people.

Quit making excuses for an evil man whose heart was full of wickedness, greed and betrayal who is now in hell – you miss the gravity of Judas sin and the reality of the evil that took place.

Quit looking for a mythical futuristic superman Antichrist who will never come when the true prophetic fulfillment of scripture is in your midst right now destroying God’s people to an extraordinary degree and will continue until the end of the age.

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Author: Timothy Campbell

Independent researcher exposing Joel's Army / Latter-Rain Movement, Christian evangelist and helping to expose the plot of the ages - the church will be here during the great tribulation (or Golden Age of Gaia) and will have resist the beast and his mark...

3 thoughts on “There Are Two Sons of Perdition… Who Are They?”

  1. Any one with any intelligence can see and read in the book of John 17:12 there is no where in the whole chapter 17 that Christ Jesus spoke of Judas Iscariot. Much less you will not even find Judas Iscariot name even mentioned in the whole chapter 17 of John.

    So where or how do you come by Judas Iscariot when Christ Jesus didn’t even mention Judas Iscariot name in the whole chapter 17 of John.

    Furthermore you have no idea as to who is the son of perdition. You like others will point to the papal dynasty, unto which is a false teaching of man’s.

    Think not that I am here to defend Shepherd’s chapel, No it’s just the truth.i have read John 17 many times and have not found one time in the whole chapter 17 of John that Christ Jesus made any mentioning of Judas Iscariot. So how or where do you get Judas Iscariot in John 17 as being the son of perdition when in fact Judas Iscariot name is not even mentioned by Christ Jesus?

    Maybe you need to rethink yourself and reread John 17 again.

    Therefore the son of perdition in John 17 and in 2 These 2:3 are the same son of perdition. Unless you can give the verse in John 17 as to where Christ Jesus made mentioning of Judas Iscariot.

    So all you have is speculation and assuming that of John 17 pertains to Judas Iscariot unto which that is mere speculation and assuming, When Christ Jesus not one time made any mentioning of Judas Iscariot in the whole chapter 17 of John.

    So my question is, how do you come by Judas Iscariot when Christ Jesus himself not one time made any mentioning of Judas Iscariot in the whole chapter 17 of John.

    On May 26, 2017 2:11 AM, “Shepherd’s Chapel Exposed!” wrote:

    > Timothy Campbell posted: ” “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that > day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of > sin be revealed, the son of perdition;” – 2nd Thessalonians 2:3 One of the > things you will hear the Chapel commonly teach is ” >

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  2. +TC You consistently amaze me with your un-scholarly and now judgemental comments.
    Consider If Judas Hung himself then he realized his gross mistake and felt the need to repent.
    But either way you were not there and thus scripture commands that you should refrain from making this type of ignorantly based judgmental comment on any particular person.
    What Christ said was purely in reference to Lucifer “The Son of Perdition” Strongs re is the son who perish-eth and the only one of the Word’s Created Offspring who will indeed go into perdition.
    Remember Timothy “Judge and ye shall be Judged”
    So to answer your Opening Question No there is only One son of perdition I.e Lucifer / Satan

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    1. the fact remains is that he commited suicide. also consider yhat he did this before the death of Christ which the quedtion remains: When Christ died and went to the graves of those who died before His death, did Judas have the opportunity to repent?

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