Is the Great Tribulation Shortened to 2.5 Months?

the whole tribulation last only 5 months?
the whole tribulation last only 5 months?

(Jer 6:13) For from the least of them even unto the greatest of them every one is given to covetousness; and from the prophet even unto the priest every one dealeth falsely.
(Jer 6:14) They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.

The Chapel’s smooth words about prophecy are leading it’s students in a precarious direction…

Here’s a short video where Murray unequivocally states that the tribulation will be shortened to two 2.5 month periods, the last part is the great tribulation – this is a truncation of the 70th week down to 5 months… at first he say 9 months and corrects himself at the end…

If you’re ever studied with the Chapel for any period of time, you’ve probably come away scratching your head on more than one occasion. Let me give you a thumbnail sketch of what they’re teaching about the tribulation…

In Matthew 24 we read:

(Mat 24:21) For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
(Mat 24:22) And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

One of the first things we realize about Murray’s tribulation is that it really isn’t that bad – I mean, the 5th trumpet began in 1982 when Mt. Saint Helen’s erupted and things have been pretty good so far. The 5th trumpet began a time of teaching about the coming of the Antichrist in the 6th trumpet. So one of the chief purposes of the Chapel is to teach this special doctrine about the 6th trumpet and the advent of the devil himself.

Massive populations of people dying in judgment is a big theme in Revelation. The Chapel teaches that the deaths spoken of in Revelation are only spiritual because Satan’s powers of “deception”.

His power is so great that only Murray’s VERY elect (7,000 die hard students, called Zadok) have the capacity to completely avoid all deception. The effects of these spiritual deaths are ameliorated by the millennium of course as these poor souls receive a second chance… you see, they never really had a chance.

Another aspect of the tribulation is its overall shortening to a 5 month period spoken of in Revelation 9 – Lucifer himself will show up for the last 2.5 months or the great tribulation… and it will be like a carnival with ice cream, circuses and freak shows, no big deal. PHEW! Big relief, now I can go back to watching Bozo the Clown.

But where do we find this in scripture? Well, as with most fantasies, we don’t.

(Dan 9:27) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

According to dispensationalist’s (and Murray is one) the whole period of tribulation is known as the 70th week of Daniel. One week = 7 years. Of that 7 years half, or 42 months, is the period of great tribulation according to futurist interpretation.

I will have much to say about dispensational futurism in time — suffice to say it is completely incorrect but let continue…

Many people will die as martyrs if I read my bible correctly. It also says that, THE Antichrist, a man, not some supernatural entity will wear the people of God out for 42 months, not 2.5 months. People will be required to worship the beast under penalty of death and to take a literal mark to buy or sell… now I may be wrong, these things may apply to the whole church age or mean something else, but it’s certainly won’t be like the Chapel teaches.

There are no second chances in a future millennium if you take the mark of the beast…

The Chapel has basically created an apocalyptic amusement park for “his” elect during the 2.5 month tribulation… one where they are glorified in triumph over Antichrist and reign over all in the millennium… that’s RELIGIOUS FANTASY!

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Author: Timothy Campbell

Independent researcher exposing Joel's Army / Latter-Rain Movement, Christian evangelist and helping to expose the plot of the ages - the church will be here during the great tribulation (or Golden Age of Gaia) and will have resist the beast and his mark...

29 thoughts on “Is the Great Tribulation Shortened to 2.5 Months?”

  1. Pastor murray clarifies his statement of the “7000” elect, as a figurative statement being a number of grace. he plainly explains that it is not a literal number, as also the 144000 which is figurative.

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    1. Maybe he amended the teaching but early on I don’t recall that – he taught that this represented a literal number. The numbers may have been symbolic, but they were also literal. Would love to the reference you are talking about.

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  2. Matthew 24:22 7 years shortened to 3 1/2 years. Revelation 9:5 Of 3 1/2 years 5 months is given to satan and his minions. Revelation 2:10 shows that some will have a personal Tribulation of not more than 10 days. Revelation 9:3,4 is directed to those who do not have the seal of YHVH in their foreheads. Please do your homework. Repent, the Kingdom of heaven is truly now at hand.

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      1. I’m not quite sure what to think about this. Any student of Shepard’s Chapel knows to refer to the Word and to translate.

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    1. Wendy, to a degree you’re right – it’s more agitation than anything. I alway go back and edit the articles so that they are more in alignment with the word; this one is no different I just updated it but please don’t overlook the important points.

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      1. I’m with “John Reeve’s” Pastor Murray is always the 1st one to say “I’m just a (man) don’t take (my) word for it…check it out for yourself” I appreciate your understanding Timothy of what Our Lord Jesus accomplished for us sinners.And the only way we are Truly Saved is by His GRACE & repentance of our sins. I also appreciate Pastor Murray & the “pizazz” he.puts into his teachings along with his patience to clarify so many subjects, that I as an x-ray & science oriented upbringing have been able to make sense of..Let’s face it, if you want to nit pick someones teachings who’s been on the air over 30yrs, of course everyone will & should find something they don’t necessarily agree with.The World would be a pretty boring place if we didn’t, or were ALL like minded & thought just like Arnold Murray. So God Bless You for speaking “your mind & opinion” very refreshing, although I still haven’t found a Better Bible Teacher than Arnold Murray & always discern for “myself” what I learn from him..another statement he frequently uses Amen 🙂

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      2. Hi Tammy. Murray actually teaches some things that I would consider fatal. I know he tries to excuse himself but what does James 3:1 say…

        “Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.” – James 3:1

        Murray will be held accountable. The purpose of this blog is to give a testimony of the false religion Jesus Christ delivered me from and though you may not perceive it, there’s alot to this.

        Murray taught prolifically. Murray distorted the meaning of scripture prolifically. The Lord is giving me the wisdom to refute these doctrines and help people get untangled from deception. He has called me to it. If you want to call Christ’s calling petty, fine. But you are not really discerning it.

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  3. I wonder what will happen to SC followers if the tribulation lasts more than five or 2.5 months. Will they lose their faith? scatter or runaway? or accept the mark of the beast? After all Dr. Murray claims you can be tattooed from head to toe and nothing will happen. The problem lies at the core of SC belief on elitism and election. The whole election as a reward for past works. These SC “elect” place their trust on themselves. It’s the Spirit who gives life; the flesh accomplishes nothing. John 6:63 The words that I’ve spoken to you are spirit and life. We need to put our trust on Jesus Christ. If we ask Him we can have His faith imputed to us. That is how we will survive the tribulation no matter how long it lasts. The tribulation will actually be good for us. It will purify us and conform us to the image of Jesus Christ. Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. I believe the Holy Spirit will be there to guide us, comfort us and strengthen us. We also need to help each other and love one another as Christ taught us.

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    1. Johny C, are you someone that the Lord has brought out of The Chapel or are you someone that is looking at this from the outside? The ranks of those deceived students who are waking up are beginning to swell… this man Murray, because of his lies – God has given me a spirit of war against false religion

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      1. Timothy, I studied with the SC for about 20 years. I thought I had found the true church. The Lord has opened my eyes to His truth. I used to let Dr. Murray do my thinking like many SC students. The thing that disturbed me was his lack of grace and lack of emphasis on Jesus Christ. He always seemed to focus in the OT and everything was always in a racial context. Many things did not add up in my mind but I trusted him. I found his pre-existence theology specially dangerous. I think it opens the door for evil spirits to further deceive people. I read somewhere that Lance Knight at some point thought he was the incarnation of the Archangel Michael. I read that you followed him at some point, is this true? I believe the Lord is calling people out of this cult. But the proud and the racist seem to be the most difficult to accept the truth. Thanks for everything you are doing and yes I believe the Lord will liberate those with a humble heart.

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      2. That’s an awesome testimony, I’m sure there is a lot more to it. Part of the problem is the students think they are doing their own thinking because they’ve accepted the main presuppositions of Murray’s system and their minds go round and around trapped in the frame he gives them. I’m glad you asked about Lance – he was the most vocal advocate of Murray at one time; I actually abandoned Murray in favor of Knights as he brought a certain freshness and zeal that Murray lacked. I owned all of his material – coincidentally when Lance snapped and broke away from Murray, and it was a radical breaking, the Lord was also working with me. When Lance turned in April 2005 I radically broke with Murray and Lance. Many of Knights early teaching were incredibly psychotic, I could tell you many strange things. He has cooled tremendously but he is teaching a version of Latter-Rain/Manifest Sons of God. Yes, he did believe that, I’m not certain he still does. When he broke – I threw every piece of religious teaching material I had from him and the Chapel away… a landslide of deception and religious idolatry began to break off but it would take some time to completely recover.

        Colby Braden a devout former Chapel student will be on my radio broadcast Monday night to talk about the Chapel… I will be publishing that online afterwards… Braden’s site is: reformedthinker.blogspot.com – if something sparks your interest I would really like for you to come on to give your thoughts and testimony. It’s going to take the testimony of Jesus Christ delivering people coming out of this to really start breaking it up

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  4. Yeah, what was really an eye opener was when I befriended several “Shepies” SC students in Facebook. Then I realized the fruits of Dr. Murray’s ministry. This whole emphasis n the flesh, race, pedigree, genealogy and fables is ridiculous. This and his secrets theology is what people think is the meat, while in reality is mostly hot air. Some of them are really nice people, you and I were once deceived. But others are very disturbed. He makes it very easy to understand the Bible with all of his twisted scripture explanations. Blaming everything on the Kenites. I noticed that he always tried to avoid the NT or twist its meaning because he wants to stick to the OT way of thinking. I wonder what you meant with Knight’s psychotic teachings? I heard he had some sort of nervous breakdown at some point.

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    1. Keep pressing. It took years to root out everything that I learned from Murray that wasn’t scriptural – I had to go back and scour my understanding and beg God to make the meaning of scripture known. I still find things to this day that shouldn’t be there.

      For Lance’s part – he repudiated his earlier teaching after he broke with the Chapel. Those files can be found no where. I am not a Knight advocate but what he did is admirable… when God began to convict him that he had been deceived he instructed his students to destroy everything.

      Not so with the Chapel, they have been peddling the same dead man’s swill for decades and won’t even stop to consider if they are wrong. I will make a draft and put together some information and thoughts on Lance Knight this week for you

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  5. WOW! I don’t think you guys have been paying attention at ALL, when it comes to the Life & Teachings of the Late Great Dr.Arnold Murray..decorated war Marine Veteran & also a WWII Vet..This man was an Archeologist who knew Hebrew, Greek & Aramaic..he was a pilot after the war & would go all over to Pastor at churches & would never accept a dime! Just like his “SCN” starting out as a little roller skating rink & thanks to so many hungry for teachings they could understand, it grew to the most broadcast program to date..I say program because Dr Murray always referred to his Christianity as a “reality” not a “religion” Who I recall constantly & never without fail speaking of “Jeshua” Our Lord along with His Heavenly Father, every single program I ever saw! & The only time he speaks of the 6th day creation (& yes I did make sure it was in the Hebrew manuscripts) is when it’s “logical & appropriate”..The man is the furthest thing from being racist, so that won’t fly..he does give “women” however more Praise & Credit than any Pastor I’ve ever heard, so I guess you could go off on that. I Just get so sick & tired of those “religious” channels that CON people out of their money..When Dr Murray never took a salary for his personal self & put all the donations back in to “air time” & necessities for materials. I’m Thankful he almost made it through the Bible chapter by chapter & verse by verse 6 times when he suddenly passed during Revelation :11 (pretty amazing!) Anyway. I do believe the man must’ve done something RIGHT & Pleasing to Our Lord or he wouldn’t have been BLESSED & allowed to be the most listened to station world wide..Please remember he proudly served our country twice & was wounded too, I believe he’s in Heaven now & needs to be honored in his death not ripped apart & ragged on for fragmented reruns of sketchy topics..As long as you guys have Jesus in your<3 I believe you'll be kind, righteous & classy when speaking you opinions God Bless 🙂

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    1. Tami, you are smitten with the Chapel, there’s no doubt. I will pray for your freedom in Christ. I want to remind you that all those things you mentioned are no argument for the truthfulness of what he’s talking about – he blinds people with those things.

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  6. Hi Tammi, John 1:11 He came unto HIS OWN, and HIS OWN received him not. You said Dr. Murray is not racist but in fact, he teaches some of the most racist theology such as the serpent seed doctrine. Telling his followers the key of David is to identify who the spawn of Satan are: the Kenites. According to John, one of Christ’s own beloved apostles he said that the Lord Jesus Christ came to HIS OWN (JEWS) and they received him not. Dr. Murray spews anti-Semitism everyday but according to you he is not a racist. 1John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 1 John3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. 11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. 12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because HIS OWN WORKS were evil, and his brother’s righteous. The children of the Devil are those who are not righteous, do evil works or do not love their brothers or sisters, not because their parents are Kenites. The seed is spiritual just like the word of God. John 8:37 I know that YE ARE Abraham’s SEED; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. Jesus Christ calls the Jews biological descendants of Abraham but spiritual sons of the Devil because His gospel had no place in them. The serpent seed doctrine is racist, hate filled and unchristian. Acts 17:26 and He made from ONE blood (man) every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation. The OT or the NT never talks about a 8th day separate creation or does it? There is not an 8th day creation in the Bible, God finished all His work and rested by the seventh day. Genesis 2: 2 By the seventh day God COMPLETED His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from ALL HIS WORK which He had done. 3Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from ALL HISWORK which God had created and made. Genesis 2:4 only goes in detail to the creation of Adam not the new creation of an 8th day man. I pray that you come out of the deception that SC delivers. Material blessings are not a sign of righteousness. King Herod was extremely wealthy and he was wicked. On the other hand Jesus had not any material wealth but was our Savior. And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head. Matthew 8:20.

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  7. He never says the “Bible” talks about the 8th day creation,,just the Hebrew manuscripts, which you don’t plan on reading or you would know that..also if Cain wasn’t the son of satan then why isn’t his geneology with Adams..& why does Jesus talk about the 2 churches he approved of Philadelphia & Smyrna & speaks of Kenites?(cuz that is surely in the bible in red)It sounds like you guys are young & are looking for much deeper complicated issues where their aren’t any..as long as you have Jesus accepted in your heart I feel you will be just fine..and as far as being Jewish a lot of my best friends are Jewish including my dr & I always refer to them as Gods chosen people..after all Jesus is Jewish. Their are a lot of ignorant lazy people that really don’t want to study the manuscripts or go to the depths of what other languages have to offer including Sumarian, the oldest known language on the planet. We all know their are good & bad people in ALL colors & denominations..none of that excludes them from HIM..For HE accepts ALL who believeth in HIM (even Kenites)

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    1. I’ve read the originals when looking at the strong’s entries – this is simply a ploy, that he’s the expert on the original manuscripts and languages. He distorts the original meaning of these words and uses that to support his doctrines. Murray is not an authority on the original manuscript – he projects himself as one but he is not.

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  8. CLEARLY he’s a sociopath & I should know cause my 1 & only older brother is also one. I’ve become a expert at spotting the “red flags” so to speak.

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      1. You want to know why? I will let you post freely, if you decide you want to insult me and post anonymously I will edit or delete it, I promise. If you want to come here and get any traction, YOU WILL be respectful otherwise you will get moderated. I normally let comments stand as is but people like to take advantage of that setup.

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  9. Although I do not agree with everything Murry taught I believe he was the best teacher of his time. I do not think God shortened the days of tribulation I believe tribulation will be 7 years because it states so in Revelation after the fact of Christ shortening those days. I do believe the numbers of God’s elect to be exact and not symbolic. I believe tribulation will last 7 years and immediately after tribulation we go into a 5 month “hour of temptation” this is why 7,000 are slain at the 7th trump thus keeping them from the hour of temptation. The woe trumps could be days apart making the time frame work. I would love to find one of God’s elect to talk to so I could understand the whole bible flawlessly.

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    1. Thunder. There is only 1 body of Christ, one “elect”. If you have God’s Spirit in you, you are born again – you are part of the elect. The elect are not some special group distinct from the body of Christ. Murray was NOT a good teacher. He was a likable person but his doctrine stinks to high hell.

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      1. If it’s not a literal number then why would God give exact number though? He had to know it would cause confusion. He gives the number in Romans and states that had has reserved them to himself, where would they have to be and where would God have to be in order to reserve someone for himself? Still at the 7th trump we see 7,000 people being slain instantly and God said he would keep his elect from the hour of temptation.

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