Wesley A. Swift, Mormonism, Pre-Existence & Shepherd’s Chapel

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Wesley A. Smith progenitor of the Christian Identity Movement…

Wesley A. Smith is the progenitor of the Christian Identity movement. As we have covered, Christian Identity is white supremacist theology. Try as they might to distance themselves from this reality the Shepherd’s Chapel is a distinct outgrowth of this movement.

In the same way Mormonism attempts to conceal it’s racist origins and statements made by it’s founders.

In several key aspects Mormonism bares striking resemblances with Shepherd’s Chapel teaching – this is due to Wesley Smith’s influence.

This can be in seen in the central tenet of pre-mortal existence of souls. An error introduced into the church by Origen and condemned at the Second Council of Constantinople in 553. The insanity of Murray’s religion can be attributed in no small part to this tenet.

Although Wesley wasn’t a member of the church of Mormon in his formative years he lived in southern California where many Mormons were settled. There is no doubt that his theology was influenced by them as the Mormon’s were the ones who emphasized the heresy at that time… Swift emerges into history baring the same notions.

And from there it was passed down to Murray. Bullinger seemed to hint at it but never gives us any details that I’m aware. The Mormon’s were the first cult I am aware of to have an elaborate history of a rebellion that took place in “the world that was”.

Christian Identity and Mormonism are part of the Dominionist Movement. During the “Golden Age of Gaia” or the Antichrist Millennium the Dominionist’s will receive the mark of the beast and be damned for eternity.

Joel’s Army is another key facet of the Dominionist Movement. The father of this movement, William Branham, shared the serpent seed doctrine in common with Swift.

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65 thoughts on “Wesley A. Swift, Mormonism, Pre-Existence & Shepherd’s Chapel

  1. The race issues does not hold water due to the tower of babel. Secondly, we have all been mixed and yes the serpent’s seed is a true doctrine, the occult know this and it is why they try to purify the blood line for power, yet the supposed church denies its existence, do not be deceived and listen to anyone. read the bible for yourself ask God to show you truth and be persistent. Separate from this world system and honor God as God.

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    • Swift was a bigot and father of Christian identity. Mormonism is/was bigoted. Murray has adopted positions based upon these earlier influences. What you call slander is someone telling the truth. My name is all over this site. You don’t have to give your name and email; wordpress requires it not me. My point in the article is that Murray has some very racist precepts and you don’t have to dig too deep to find out where he got them.

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      • premillennialism is that Jesus comes back and establishes his FOREVER rule on earth, the millennium is just the first segment when satan is totally bound, not just partially bound and crippled like now. he will be let loose after that to tempt mankind one more time. then a revolt which is put down, then the general resurrection and judgement, then the new heavens and new earth and then the New Jerusalem comes down out of heaven a 1200 or 1500 mile high and wide cube.

        this is all in Revelation’s last two or three chapters, read them at one sitting don’t “study” in piecemeal with people telling you what it means READ IT. let it speak for itself. Daniel 7 and 8
        gives a telescoped view.

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      • Jesus is already reigning and ruling the nations with a rod of iron, he will reign until He has put all enemies under His feet. Also, Revelation is not a chronological book – every time John says, “And I saw”, this indicates another vision. He’s bound in respect to his ability to “decieve all nations” and gather them to persecute the church. When he is loosed for a season, they will gather to make war on the elect.

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  2. I am blessed to be studying since early 2014. I was raised in the Assembly of God – Pentecostal. I am going to a church the Dream Center. I have been saved for 42 years. I love to study with Pastor Arnold n Dennis Murray. Thank you for teaching us chapter by chapter, verse by verse. I am blessed everyday I study. God bless you and your Staff, and Family. Thanks, again.

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  3. You need to listen to everything he says not just part. If you want to know what Arnold thinks of Christ’s return then check out his lecture on rev:19 – end his answer for those who never had a chance coming out the gate is the Lord’s day or millinium as it is written.

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  4. You are way out in left field with this posting of Mormonism. If you don’t accept the truth of God’s word that’s your choice not ours.

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  5. My God, Young People are So Stupid. Racism is a American Invention, of the 1960’s, actually a Comminust/Athiest/ Lesbian Plot to Destroy Christiany. It Has Succedded. in my Father & Grandfather day, Races were Judged by their Behaviours, Negrews acted terribel, and were judges NOT GOOD of Honor recipient).
    William H. Murray
    Murray 3820618984 5cb0d9555b o.jpg
    Murray circa 1913
    9th Governor of Oklahoma
    In office
    January 12, 1931 – January 15, 1935
    Lieutenant Robert Burns
    Preceded by William J. Holloway
    Succeeded by Ernest W. Marland
    Member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Oklahoma’s At-large district
    In office
    March 4, 1913 – March 3, 1915
    Preceded by (district created)
    Succeeded by (district eliminated)
    Member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Oklahoma’s 4th district
    In office
    March 4, 1915 – March 3, 1917
    Preceded by Charles D. Carter
    Succeeded by Tom McKeown
    1st Speaker of the Oklahoma House of Representatives
    In office
    1907–1909
    Governor Charles N. Haskell
    Preceded by None
    Succeeded by Ben Wilson
    Personal details
    Born William Henry Davis Murray
    November 21, 1869
    Collinsville, Texas
    Died October 15, 1956 (aged 86)
    Tishomingo, Oklahoma
    Resting place Tishomingo City Cemetery
    34°13′38.6″N 96°40′43.3″W
    Political party Democratic
    Spouse(s) Mary Alice Hearrell Murray
    Profession Teacher, Lawyer
    Religion Methodism
    William Henry Davis “Alfalfa Bill” Murray (November 21, 1869 – October 15, 1956) was an American teacher, lawyer, and politician who became active in Oklahoma before statehood as legal adviser to Governor Douglas H. Johnston of the Chickasaw Nation. Although not American Indian, he was appointed by Johnston as the Chickasaw delegate to the Convention for the proposed State of Sequoyah, and was later elected as a delegate to the constitutional convention for the state of Oklahoma.
    Murray was elected as the first Speaker of the Oklahoma House of Representatives after statehood, as U.S. Representative, and as the ninth Governor of Oklahoma (1931-1935). His campaign was marked by racist appeal and he supported Jim Crow laws. During his tenure as governor in years of the Great Depression, he established a record for the number of times he used the National Guard to perform duties in the state and for declaring martial law. He was a Democrat.NEIGHBOURS.
    I am now 65 Year Old, Live in Leberiael San Francsico

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    • We have tried black racism in this white Christiana nation and let me assure you I am now what you call a
      white racist. We are now a conquered nation, I’ll explain, a nation is defined by it.s boarders, language,and
      it’s culture, when you think of Mexico you think of a brown race of people,when you think of China you think of a yellow race of people when you think of Africa you think of a black race of people etc. look around you the next time you visit any city in the U.S.A,.and All worship a different god.

      Biblical when the Babylonians or the Assyrians conquered a nation they flooded it with other races and languages and cultures. these countries never rose to provenance again because they lacked any commonality. This is the late,great U.S.A. Put all your faith in Jesus Christ.
      PROUD TO BE WHITE

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      • I am concerned with culture as well but there is something more important than this — racism is hatred toward someone else in reference to their ethnicity, which the bible clearly forbids. I am not concerned with race – my concern is that all these individuals come to a saving knowledge of of Jesus Christ. Then they are my brother and/or sister. Outside of this we are all the same: wicked sinners, bound for perdition, red, yellow, black, white they are all condemned in His sight apart from Christ.

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      • I only hate people that hate my people.and the enemies of my God.
        “DO NOT i HATE THOSE THAT HATE THEE”
        Proud to be white!

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      • Your pride is useless – remember Jesus words, love thine enemy; yes, it’s easy to hate those people who are destroying your nation – in fact, I find myself filled with hate from time to time, when it goes too far the Lord always convicts me of sin… yes, I want criminals and thugs to be dispatched mercilessly but it’s not a race thing – all the ethnic groups are capable of equivalent wickedness, even the white supremacists

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      • Your race mixing is against God’s laws of nature I have encountered race mixing Jews like you before.
        It is clear that you worship a different god.

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      • I am very much a gentile, and very white; I am for strong cultural values but as concerns what you are talking about, there is no sin. It was a sin for God’s old covenant chosen people to intermarry with the surrounding pagan idolatrous nations. The same way it would be a sin for me to marry a non-believer. A person is free to marry whom they chose and they are accepted before God. It would be a sin for me to be yoked to a non-believer, not someone of different ethnicity.

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      • It is not a sin to marry a non believer as long as that person does not hinder a Christian from worshiping ,
        Kind after Kind is God’s law .The old testament covenant people was and is Israel,when those 10 northern tribes fled bondage and passed thru the Caucasus Mountains when they emerged on the other side they
        were known as Caucasians and are Israel today, Abraham was not a Jew,Issac was not a Jew, Jacob whose name was changed to Israel was not a Jew none of his 12 sons were Jews., but are western culture
        of today. Ish in the Hebrew means man,Brith means covenant Ain means land,Brit ish Brit ain put them together, Britain,British,And add the rest of the Ish’s Irish,Swedish,Scotish Ect. The Ish peoples of the world along with the German,Celtic, and so on.Issac’s sons became known as Saxons Anglo was added because of their fair complexion The white race, Hebrew does not mean Jewish.
        Our preachers have surrendered our Birth rite to the Antichrist Jew. If your church does not teach this
        Get Out!!!

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  6. I messed up, Old Preacher Murray Admits “Alfalfa” Bill is his Uncle, I am from Oklahoma, I Read the FIRST Okla. Constitution, written by KKK Grand Wizard Alfalia Bill Murray STATED American Indians were SUB HUMAN, 1/3 Beasts, while Negrews (According to Bill Murray) Were 1/2 Beasts, not Human.

    This Thinking was Typical American Thought, Part of the Culture of American Manifest Destiny, so American Christerins should have No Shame at GENOCIDES worse than Hitler!

    12,000,000 CONSERVITIVELY Indains GENOCIDED by Americans! Hiteler only 6,000,00 Jews.

    Hitler was a Follower of Martin (Burn Them Alive!) Luther, founder of a Second Whorish Daughter to Popish Rome…Luther was a Jesuit, a Sent From Loloyla to Create MORE JEW HATERS under a Different Banner.
    Murray & the Mormon Teachings are so Similar To Jack Parsons, L. Ron Hubbard, and all Mormons were 32.nd Degree Scottish Rite Freemasons/
    Jehova’s Witnesses as Well are all Followers of 32.nd. Degree Freemason FOUNDERS.

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    • As far as I can see this man Murray is doing a good work. You cannot build your house by tearing down another. Who made you a REVEREND and for what reason. Hooey, phooey and baloney! God Almighty said I will chose my priests preachers.

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      • Blessings, here is a passage from Proverbs 11 I’d to share with…

        By the blessing of the upright the city is exalted: but it is overthrown by the mouth of the wicked. He that is void of wisdom despises his neighbor: but a man of understanding holds his peace. A talebearer reveals secrets: but he that is of a faithful spirit conceals the matter.

        I will continue to pray for you…

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      • Romans 14:10-12

        (10) But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. (11) For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. (12) So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
        2 Corinthians 5:10

        (10) For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
        Revelation 20:13

        (13) And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

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    • Augustiss, you call yourself Reverend, you want people to Revere you? for what? I believe you to be an antichrist whose lot in life is to destroy any good works of Christianity. Who would be evil enough to ordain you? What Synagogue are you with?

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    • I’ve never heard of Agustiss before – but his comment was insightful. Also, Evan, keep in mind I let you speak freely until you get wild and over the top – then I start to moderate. Wesley Swift was the originator of Christian Identity – the point of the article was to show his connection with Mormonism, Murray and their teachings about pre-existence. What part of the article is inaccurate?

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      • I’m sure that to yourself and Agustiss Thaddaeus Whittchomb Banner Truth does seem over the top, but you are willing to march lock step with him.

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      • Never heard of him fried so I don’t know what he teaches. I believe racism is hatred, and hatred is a sin. I don’t hate pastor Murray, I hate his delusional system he teaches – and by the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ I will do everything to expose it so people can be freed from his lies.

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      • Why are you a race mixer? You declared yourself to be a Gentile, the meaning of this word Gentile means ethnic. Why do you advocate race mixing?

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      • Race doesn’t matter at all as everyone descended from Adam and Eve, there is only one race, the human – what matters is whether you love your neighbor as yourself. I’ve seen deep hatred and racism in my days, and I know it’s wrong. Human beings are free agents and marriage is a covenant, an agreement between a man and a woman. It matters not to me who marries, it is none of my concern. I believe Christians should not marry non-Christians but that is my own preference. You want to introduce sin where it does not exist.

        And yes, I am a gentile saved by the Grace of Christ and adopted into the family of God. If I were a betting man, I would say you are gentile too.

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      • Hi friend. I have some passages that believe support my position.

        39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
        40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
        41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
        42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
        43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
        44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do . He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
        45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
        46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
        47 He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

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      • Hi Evan. You will not be pleased with my editing and moderating of your comments – the new version of what you wrote reflects a nicer and gentler, Evan Lewis… more Christlike, you should thank me.

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      • Here are some more passages I would like to share with you… this is from John.

        1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
        2 The same was in the beginning with God.
        3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made .
        4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
        5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
        etc.

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      • Hi Evan. I will let you freely comment for now – but if you become insulting towards me (and you have) your comment will be moderated and edited. “Hi friend” is a polite expression that reflects well on you. I realize you do not consider me your friend. We simply don’t agree – but I won’t give you free reign to say anything towards me that you want and have it be posted. So if you don’t want people to know who you are post anonymously but the same rules apply.

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      • Hi Evan, please check out the verse where Jesus clarifies His statement, He said, “I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; ( biological descendants) but ye seek to kill me, because my word ( gospel/spiritual seed) hath no place in you” John 8:37. The Jews that Jesus scolded and even called the sons of the Devil was because they had no faith (righteousness) rejected His Gospel and their deeds were wicked. 1 John 3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. 12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because HIS OWN WORKS were evil, and his brother’s righteous. The children of the Devil are those who are not righteous (no faith), do evil works or do not love their brothers or sisters, not because their parents are Kenites. The seed is spiritual just like the word of God.

        Abraham was righteous because he had faith. “By faith he made his home in the promised land like a stranger in a foreign country; he lived in tents, as did Isaac and Jacob, who were heirs with him of the same promise” (Heb. 11:9).
        Genesis 15:6
        Abram believed the LORD, and he credited it to him as righteousness.
        Romans 4:9
        Is this blessedness only for the circumcised, or also for the uncircumcised? We have been saying that Abraham’s faith was credited to him as righteousness.
        Romans 4:22
        This is why “it was credited to him as righteousness.”
        Galatians 3:6
        So also Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”
        James 2:23
        And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as
        righteousness,” and he was called God’s friend.

        The seed is the word of God not a biological one.

        Matthew 13 :18 “Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: 19 When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in their heart. This is the SEED sown along the path. 20 The SEED falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. 21 But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. 22 The SEED falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful. 23 But the SEED falling on good soil refers to someone who hears the word and understands it. This is the one who produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown.” The seed is the word of God you can call it a spiritual seed not a flesh (genetic/ biological ) seed as SC teaches.

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      • Johny
        I know that is commonly taught.
        Check your Bible completely,
        Abraham was not a Jew, Issac was not a Jew, Jacob Israel) was not a Jew,Jacob’s twelve sons were not Jews. Jesus Christ was not a Jew Cain was of that wicked one and is the father of them that call themselves Jews (of Judah and are not) , but are of the Synagogue of Satan.
        Our birth rite has been stolen from us.
        Any one that is a believer can be grafted in.
        Much thanks, for your incite.

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    • Many of the SC teachings sound like masonic propaganda. I was surprised when they played that CI video about the founding fathers, pyramidology, the all “seeing eye” in the back of the 1 dollar bill as Christian. Most everyone knows that most of the founding fathers were raging masons. Is there a chance that Dr. Murray was mason as well? I noticed he always portrays a two headed eagle behind his desk. After the square and compass the two headed eagle is the most recognizable masonic symbol. Some say it represented his buddy and himself from the Korean conflict. Any thoughts on this?

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      • Yes, it definitely does — if my memory serves me correct L. Raymon Capt’s (if you ever seen the booklist you’ll know what I mean) father was a high ranking mason and so all the CI people were constantly trafficking with freemasonic society. Murray rails on the NWO but in all of my years I don’t recall him condemning freemasonry. He also defends the Catholic church. The Chapel is part of Dominionism which is kind of like a British Imperial religious deception network. Strange about Murray, he defends all sort of religious idolatry like the “gospel in the stars”, numerology, pyramidology et al.; it is very Babylonian… but you’re right, he defends all of the masonic symbology and applies it back to signs of proof for British Israelism…

        In fact, this is an article that needs to be done so thanks for reminding me.

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      • the highest ranking member within that worldwide masonic power structure is what we could call the “head” of the beast – and to give you a hint, it is William and/or Charles, or the Queen. That is not to say William or Charles is the man of sin, but as of now they sit atop the masonic power structure… but Revelation 13 says the head receives a death stroke… the true antichrist will reside over this masonic power structure I believe.

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      • Murray’s false NWO says something – he projects a fictitious power structure (Kenite network which he never gets specific about) which doesn’t exist – all while actually being an advanced spiritual guard for the real thing. Very ironic. Accursed religion for sure.

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  7. Granted you have quoted from the Bible. But I really don’t think you fully understand the whole picture or know what a real cult consists of. Jim Jones is an example of a true cult. I have done a lot of studies into different religions. First of all I am a Christian. To attack another religion even though you don’t believe the way they do is not a Christian act. The Bible supports this. I use the King James. Anyone can twist the Bible to fit their beliefs. The end days are upon us. The signs and prophecy are being fullfilled each day. If you can’t recognize the signs then you don’t understand the teachings in Daniel and Revelation. It sounds to me you are very quick to point fingers and cast judgement my friend. This is very dangerous. Satan is a deceiver. Will you be deceived when Antichrist comes 1st? I hope you don’t believe in Rapture. It’s not in the Bible or it’s teachings. I don’t see why an email is important. It may not be published but maybe added to a list. True Christians that know the truth have to be careful in today’s society. There will be a millennium after the true Christ Jesus has done what was written in the Bible. But the Millennium will be a time of teaching to those who were mislead. God is great. He is our father. He loves us and gets upset when people are falsely accused. I hope you realize the 1st beast of power is already here. And recently the 2nd beast the false prophet has made his presence known. Remember alot of teachings are not literal. They are representations and symbols. For those who know and see and study the truth.

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    • Hi Samantha. I agree, there are varying degrees of severity with cults. As far as what you call attacking, what if the Lord delivered you from a cult and then called you to warn others about what they were caught up in? If you can imagine that, then you will understand this blog a little better. I do not believe in a pre-tribulation rapture. Also, I do not accept the premillennial position you referred to.

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    • Dear Samantha,
      I’m amazed at your knowledge of His word.
      As you must know this first beast suffers a deadly wound,and that brings Satan here as instead of Christ
      (anti Christ) It is Satan that heals the wound to the one world government,the second beast is what the Pope is striving for now, paving the way for a one world religion, understand the word Catholic means one world. This in no wise is issued to be critical,only as further help to those that do not have your knowledge.
      To posses the knowledge that you do,you must be one His Elect.
      and my Friend,

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      • Evan – please go back and test your understanding and pray. Ask for the Lord to show you any way you might be deceived because it happens to the best of us. Many people have an interpretation of prophecy – and they mistake it for reality. How do you know that you are completely correct? Murray has sold his students a bill of goods… please go back and deconstruct his system of teaching.

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  8. I have never seen such bigotry in any other faction of Christianity as that within the Christian identity. If it is as you say that the Shepherd’s Chapel emerged from these racist origins it is truly a shame.

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  9. Funny how a lot of these groups start out with some crazy bigoted notions and then later plaster over it with lies… it’s historic revisionism for cults.

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